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January 26, 2010

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Laura

This was a perfect post for me tonight, Johanna. Thank you!

I also had to laugh at the line where you wrote, I've found that when someone with an eating disorder says he/she's tried everything she means everything within the context of the eating disorder (bingeing, purging, restricting, over-exercising...)" I laughed because it's so true. I'll try anything! As long as it's an eating disordered thing.... lol. So funny because this is just so my experience, and, I look back (or, um, even at my current self sometimes) and laugh. Because the logic is so backwards. My therapist told me yesterday that "people try to get out of their eating disorder by going into their eating disorder." I slipped a little in the past two days. My therapist said, "Your'e in the hole, but you're trying to get out of the hole by going farther in the hole. You don't climb out of a hole by going down. It's like people are hoping so hard that if they just go farther into the hole, they'll find a secret back door that will let them out more easily. The truth is, there is no back door. It's a cul-de-sac. It's painful to be in the hole, and it's painful to come out of the hole. But there is only one way out. Up."

What you wrote was like my therapist telling me that people try to get out by going down. Does that make any sense?

wendy

To day I love this post...on another day I might have rolled my eyes. LOL When I entered therapy I was so tired of trying to over come the disorder only to realize that all of my attempts were just to apply another eating disorder behavior without realizing it. I also agree that recovery promises that we will feel better...but for me that meant no longer feeling numb or dead but actually feeling all sorts of emotions, which makes me feel alive...i still sometimes panic and want to escape them, but they feel better (even the unpleasant ones) than the dead feeling.

Ann

Amen to that ("but they feel better (even the unpleasant ones) than the dead feeling.") Wendy!

Sarah

About the first guarantee: I don't find getting to feel much of an incentive, in general. Usually I'd prefer not to. Anyone else on the same page as me with this one?

About the second guarantee: I've read it over a whole bunch of times. My reaction is to say that some people are going to end up fat (in a technical sense, say BMI > 40) even without any kind of issues around eating. I'm well into that range and it's just not realistic to expect that I could lose enough weight to look normal or shop in normal stores, etc. But now I'm just repeating exactly what I posted last time. ;) So I don't know. I don't feel like my eating is so disordered that it could really account for my weight. But then, last week my therapist was talking about my tendency to minimize what's going on. So.... I don't know. I think I will print this one out and take it in.

As usual, you've left me with lots to think about, Johanna! :)

Sarah

So I have thought more about your second guarantee and why it bothers me so much. I guess, for me, accepting that I will very probably always be fat is all about trusting my body. After all, I got into this mess as a kid when my doctor and my family felt that my fat body was unacceptable. Then I spent most of my life hating and feeling ashamed of myself and my body and living in "one day when I'm thin"-land. If giving up on all that means trusting my body for getting where it needs to be, then this also means trusting my body if it decides to stay fat.

When I read your post the problem for me is that I still read it as saying that being fat is totally unacceptable. Does that make any sense at all?

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